Version 1.4.7 is out

[datguygamer]

@angryjohnny When you updated, did you have to login to your Rovio account or was it auto signed in?

[Angry Johnny]

@datguygamer It auto signed in as I had not uninstalled the previous version.

[Sutekh137]

@poptimus

Not sure about Caves being a good source of mastery, since you can only bring two birds. That’s a loss of 33% mastery right there. Are you sure Caves are the way to go? I haven’t been keeping up on any mastery threads…

As far as SRC, heh, I didn’t even notice the nerf and was grinding all last week. Shows how much I pay attention. *smile* I ran five times through it now and got an average of 28 snoutlings pe runr. Basically, they just cut way back on what the boss drops, I think. Still enough to keep up with the Dojo, though not as lucrative for having snoutlings to buy potions/resources.

As far as 1.4.8, it runs fine on Android and updated OK. I am not sure what they are talking about in terms of “mastery level tiers rebalanced”. The birds I had at 15 are still at 15, the birds at 14 are still at 14, and it still looks like the raise from 14 to 15 is about 50,000 medals (and all my 14-level birds are at about the same progress to 15 as they were before the update).

No new Chronicle Caves — though I did get an LC when I watched a floating chest movie (has that always been a possibility)?

Anyway, not a lot to see, just need to wait for it to get working on iOS since I only have BlueStacks on my work PC. No Dojo runs from home until it gets working on my iPhone again…

Thanks,
sutekh137

[Angry Johnny]

No new Chronicle Caves — though I did get an LC when I watched a floating chest movie (has that always been a possibility)?

Not always but for a long time. You will get a chest in the caves every 24 hours since the last time you viewed the video in the chest.

[angryde]

@kennymcc That’s why I always set auto-update to off as off can be… not that it would of helped this time around… I immediately updated, like a good little lemming/sheep XD

Ed. @sutekh137 I totally empathize with your frustration… if I’d paid any real world $ I’d be utterly ropeable :-/ But… as a freemium/freeplay scab I don’t feel like I’ve any right to complain. So, commiserations…

[RedYoshi45]

@sutekh137
Oh yes the caves are the way to go. Because of the sheer amount of mastery you get from there, it doesn’t matter that it’s just two birds you can take there.

@angryjohnny
Lucky. I have to wait… :( At least, I may be able to get it running on Bluestacks. Woo!

[pixelyzed]

My game is stuck on loading balancing as well.

Why can’t Rovio hire actually competent developers? They fail so often it’s ridiculous. Even Adobe does better (and believe me, this is NOT a compliment… ;)

[Anonymous]

@sutekh137
Yeah, @smwforever45 and I did some pretty exhaustive research, which is detailed in the SRC nerf thread. The short version is that the enemies in caves 1-5, 4-5, and 17-5 (and probably others) drop mastery more frequently than those in the rest of the game, so the total combined mastery earned per minute of autoplay is higher, despite all the various mitigating factors (specifically: two birds instead of three, longer times between runs because there’s no replay button, taking the time to choose a facebook friend’s bird to borrow, and the various cave effects that can slow you down). The only thing we didn’t measure is the specific frequency of mastery drops for each type of pig, which can’t be done on autoplay (well, it can, but it would defeat the purpose of autoplay, because you’d have to be paying close attaention to see when mastery was dropped!).

[RedYoshi45]

And Bluestacks WORKS!!! :D
I can play again! Yay!

(Bought Elite Sea Dog since I saw it was on discount!)

[stym]

So I created a ticket with Rovio Support regarding the app getting stuck at “Loading Balancing into Memory”.
They actually had to do something with my saved game file to get it to work, but it DID fix it.
They also awarded me 220 lucky coins for the trouble!

[angryde]

@smwforever45 Awesomeness Yosh :D

[Napoleongl]

For how long are the elite classes on sale? Won’t be destroying my game by upgrading to 147 on iOS.

[RedYoshi45]

@stym
You’re lucky! I did not get a reponse from Rovio yet…
(Then again, I can play on Bluestacks just fine. For now. Until they fixed the iOS app.)

EDIT: @napoleongl
Four more days, says my game. So probably, it will end one day before the Sports event starts.

[pixelyzed]

Just openend a ticket as well as they seem to be unable to fix their own messes in a timely manner…

[RedYoshi45]

To see if coin tosses actually were fixed, I’m starting to track them.
Since I got an impossible objective again (T-Bird…), I was done after 3 matches. Not gonna play more than that. Two wins, one loss.

[Anonymous]

@stym
Would you mind posting exactly what you said in your ticket, so the rest of us affected by this issue can attempt the same? I entered a support ticket this morning too, but have no response yet.

[Sutekh137]

@angryde

Oh, I’m fine — I’ve never spent any money on LC. My biggest stash of LC came from exploiting the daily golden pig back when it was in the week-long format — you could manipulate time-zones and get a lot of LC. Not that it really matters — all of those LC went up in smoke spinning for Epic gear and then getting mastery to 12 (and then they raised it to 15 — if they raise it again this game will definitely be done for me).

@poptimus

Really? Cave 1-5 drops a lot of mastery even though the critters are only level 16? OK, time to do some testing:

Cave 1-5, three runs (the pigs are level 16):
Medals dropped: 16, 15, 15 or 46 total
Mastery gained: 276
Mastery points per medal = 6

Cave 4-5, three runs (the pigs are level 22):
Medals dropped: 11, 16, 16 or 43 total
Mastery gained: 344
Mastery points per medal = 8

Star Reef Castle, one run (the pigs are level 60):
Medals dropped: 4 + 1 boss medal
Mastery gained: 49
Mastery points per medal: Do boss medals count double or triple? Because maybe I missed one normal medal. In any case, it seems like the medals were worth 7 points each with a boss medal (which I think is guaranteed?) being double or triple that.

I always though mastery per medal was based on pig level. I should just read your other thread, but do “normal” medals max out at 7 points per, while Chronicle Cave medals are far more lucrative even for low-level pigs? Was it always that way? I am guessing the drop rate in the Cave levels is around 70-75%, while drop rates on SRC are around 30-35% at best (depending on whether or not the boss always drops).

In other words, you are right. *smile* I would test a higher Cave, but I am fighting with just two birds and anything beyond 4-5 will probably start to be a slog. I know 1-5 would easily auto-play and take less time, so that will probably be my new grinder.

Incidentally, in 6 runs through the two Caves, I must have seen at least four Wealthy Rogues. So, snoutlings probably end up being more lucrative there as well, or at least about the same (twice the number of rooms as SRC but twice the snoutlings, usually).

Thanks for the great tip! I need to keep up on the forums more. *smile*

Thanks,
sutekh137

[RedYoshi45]

@sutekh137
While 17-5 gives a huge amount of mastery it also takes a lot more time to complete, so in the end 17-5 is just as effective as 1-5 on MPM (mastery per minute).

Boss medals count as big pigs and therefore are worth double (or, in your case, 14 mastery instead of 7).

[Anonymous]

@sutekh137
Lol. I like how your first instinct was to run your own tests. I’m the same way (as evidenced, haha!).
AFAIK, the only pig to drop mastery every time is King Pig, in his castle. Outside of the Caves, all others drop about 1/3 of the time, I think. Inside the Caves, obviously the pigs in 1-5 and 4-5 drop more frequently (your 75%ish guess seems roughly right to me, anecdotally), but many others seem to drop at the same 1/3rd-ish rate as elsewhere.

@smwforever45 did a good rundown in the other thread of pig levels and how much mastery they drop. 7 is indeed the max for small pigs, and it’s double for big pigs at every experience level.

[Sutekh137]

@smwforever45
@poptimus

17-5 would be impossible for me since I am just two-birding it (no friend birds). I don’t think just a pair could win on 17-5, certainly not on auto-play (hell, they can’t even beat 6-5 because they get in a buff loop).

I tried some other 10-wavers in the Caves and it would seem that 1-5 and 4-5 drop more. On other words, big brutes, etc. drop more (because they dropped in other levels while the non-brute pigs seemed to drop less.

4-5 autoplays fine, though, at least with the current pair I am advancing, so that is definitely my new spot! Thanks again, guys!

Thanks,
sutekh137

[stym]

@poptimus , I simply entered :
After upgrading to version 1.4.7 (on Samsung Galaxy Note II), the application is stuck on the loading screen on “Loading balancing into memory…”

as well as my device name, OS version, Rovio account in the appropriate fields.

[Napoleongl]

@smwforever45
Thanks!

On a side note I just proved I’m an idiot… Came home and out of habit updated all apps. And thereby I f—ed my account. Guess I’ll have a weekend off then.

[Pointless]

I heard from @kennymcc that 1.4.8 has fixed the issues created by 1.4.7 (Android). Is everyone finding this to be the case?

[Atom]

I sent in a ticket regarding my inability to log in. Rovio rolled back my save file and I reinstalled 1.4.6 and was able to play again. We’ll see how 1.4.8 goes when it comes out for iOS.

[Suikyo]

Cave Brute Frost Hog, Brawler always drop mastery points, Cave Shaman, Brute sometimes.