Set Items

[Chuck_Bird]

I’ve used the EPala, Wizard, and EDog. The only complete set i have is only the last will set.
Here is what my research gave to me :
The set is awesome with resurrection, First, my Chuck died with samurai-gang up combo. My Chuck resurrected and other birds attack random birds. Then, an illusionist-SDog combo killed it again and Chuck resurrected AGAIN. All other birds attack the banner and i won 10 times in a row. But then i lost 3 times in a row.
Please check this bug too:
When last will set triggered with one bird attached to gang up, the next round Bomb somehow attacked randomly without sacrificing his turn. Anyone experienced this before???

[Pointless]

@aufar-ramadhan that is the wheird order of battle I was mentioning before with Gang Up. It procs last, so every other Bird gets an action, then SeaDog will attack (yes it seems like in the next turn sometimes). It definitely is a Gang Up, and doesn’t always work, especially if an Enemy attack prior to this causes a KO of one of your Birds, but it is linked to this.

I will also tentatively say that a Last Will proc does not cause a retaliation Last Will, at least in the half dozen or so times I have seen this as a possible outcome.

[RedYoshi45]

The free roll on the GPC gave me the missing part of the Cheater set!

At least, it’ll be a complete set for the Blues… but it’s a pretty big step down in attack power…
I’d rather wait for a complete BEEP! set.

[Pointless]

BEEP! is only really an option with Spies IMO, albeit a very good one. This is why I am having a hard time choosing which L62 Set to Enchant for Blues. I do use Spies quite a bit, but only in PvE, so really my L52/E10 Set is quite good enough. I do kind of dream of Ballista L62/E10 with ETricksters…but that’s what Epic does to a man, I guess :)

[Dave]

@pointless

Are you using blues in arena?
I have been trying alot with diffrent combos.

My ultimate team is red pala with dragon set(what else xD), the 4th class of chuck with twinlightning and the first bombclass with finisher.
The class lvls are 12 12 11
And for set item E all are lvl 10. Its hard to loose with that. Once the banner is below half hp bomb will go carzy :D

Whats your combo?

[RedYoshi45]

@seraphion
That’s Paladin, Wizard and Pirate.

My main combo is Paladin, Wizard and Witch (11/14/8), although I have been trying out Paladin, Wizard and Spies (11/14/11) and it works pretty well (Spies have less health than Wizard which makes enemies target them first).

[Pointless]

@seraphion I rarely use Blues in Arena, as I think the combo of having both the weak Chuck and Blues is a recipe for disaster.
I am currently using EPaladin M14/DB L62/E10, ETBird M13/Bones L62/E10 and ESeaDog M14/Scissors L62/E10. Not having any problems at all :)

[datguygamer]

@pointless I was on the same boat until I started using Treasure Hunters paired up with the False Coin and Rigged Dice back when I was still playing the arena. TH has the highest raw damage output than any of the other Blues’ classes and the support ability is not that bad either.

[Pointless]

@datguygamer I did give Cheater a go, but really think the Set is overrated, and now that I’m using Bones, losing the toss matters even less. I am reguarly winning in two turns regardless on the toss outcome, as having Last Will proc generally leaves one, if not two, enemy Birds down before I even get a turn. The only warning I have is beware Vengence and Retaliation Emblems, as Last Will procs from these can cause the dreaded freeze where your Birds simply stand there and you can’t do anything but force close.

[datguygamer]

@pointless Fair enough.

[KennyMcC]

I have found that opposing Last Will is triggered even if u destroy the opposing banner together with Chuck. It means that if those Last Will attacks destroy your banner too, u lose the battle :D I think that no other effect should be triggered when u destroy the banner. What do u think?

[RedYoshi45]

@kennymcc
If the opposing banner is down, Chuck will still be alive and HE is the one that has Last Will equipped, not the banner. If you talk about Resurrection, that’s a different thing because the emblem is equipped on the banner.
The game says you will only win if your own banner is still up at the end of the battle. There’s nothing wrong with your scenario.

[KennyMcC]

@smwforever45
The question is what is the end of the battle :)? In my opinion: The battle ends right at the moment when one of the two opposing banners is destroyed :)

[Pointless]

@kennymcc but that is not the way Rovio has programmed it. The battle ends at the end of the turn (or half-turn, depending on how you want to look at it) in which a Banner falls. I see this effect all the time using SeaDog, as he will get his Gang Up at the end of the turn after Chuck’s Rage, even though the Banner has long ago fallen.

[KennyMcC]

@pointless
Yeah I know. It is the question if it is right or wrong :)

[Pointless]

To loosely paraphrase your avatar: “There is no right or wrong, only what IS…” :)

[angryde]

@pointless Interesting factoid… I found that my ability to understand German improved markedly when I began to ‘think like Yoda.’ His habit of placing verbs – randomly and pointlessly! – at the end of sentences is remarkably similar to German’s V2 grammatical structure. As English speakers, we laugh about Yoda’s alien-sounding speech… but, the joke’s on me, eh!? XD

@smwforever45 Sorry, Yosh, but V2 is damn weird… :-P

[RedYoshi45]

@angryde
Mate, verbs are usually at the second position in a German sentence, no different than English (Ich bin hungrig, I am hungry). XD
The only occasion where verbs are placed at the end of a sentence is in conditional sentences, like, “Ich denke, dass ich hungrig bin”, “I think I am hungry”. That occasion occurs quite often so maybe that’s why you have this feeling. :P

PS: In the German dub of Star Wars, Yoda speaks like “Hungrig ich bin”, “Hungry I am”. That’s a bit different :P

[angryde]

@smwforever45 Trust me, dude… to a native English speaker V2 sounds like Yoda. Think of this famous line – ‘around the survivors a perimeter create.’ ROLF. VERY German. VERY un-English. ;-)

To quote Mark Twain – “…finally, all the parentheses and reparentheses are massed together between a couple of king-parentheses, one of which is placed in the first line of the majestic sentence and the other in the middle of the last line of it — after which comes the VERB, and you find out for the first time what the man has been talking about; and after the verb — merely by way of ornament, as far as I can make out — the writer shovels in ‘haben sind gewesen gehabt haben geworden sein,’ or words to that effect, and the monument is finished.”

And – trust me! – to a non-native speaker… all we hear is ‘reverse stacking’ for modals at the end of sentences… argh… kill me now!! :-D

But Twain – like me – is just having a laugh… we both love(d) German in our heart of hearts!!

[RedYoshi45]

@angryde
Bad example because the (correct) English sentence has the exact same word order as the German sentence. XD Unless you add a conjunction before the sentence – in which case the verb wanders to the end. It’s confusing… but you’ll get used to it. :P

But yeah, German can become tricky when you’ve got such a convoluted sentence. I was once able to fill a full page with a single sentence – but I am darn sure the same is possible in English too. XD

[KennyMcC]

@pointless
There is only Force and Dark Side of the Force ;) Or is there anything between :D?

[angryde]

@smwforever45 ROFL… I’m not sure I’ll ever get used to it… but I’m really enjoying the process XD

Being from Australia… where ‘foreign languages’ are considered a complete waste of time… learning a new language – at my age – has been a truly humbling experience :P

But, I am always comforted when I meet other ex-pats in Germany… sometimes I even feel like my German isn’t completely awful… Lol.

[RedYoshi45]

@angryde
While you enjoy learning German, I enjoy learning français. :D

In Germany, many speak English. And sometimes I do feel a bit foreign in my own country when I hear all sorts of different languages. English is common as I said, but also Turkish, Arabic, French, Spanish, Chinese… all sorts. XD

Hey your German is good! Native speakers are sometimes worse. XD

[RedYoshi45]

I decided to throw 15 LC’s into the 3xRR.
Wasn’t disappointed!
I got the Ballista and the Heavenly Case, both of which were new!

[Pointless]

You have the complete Ballista Set now @smwforever45 ? Now you’ll be wanting Skulkers for sure (or at the very least something shiny new for ETricksters).