About the Angry Birds 2 Arena

[kelshe]

I think the tier after Elder Diamond will be Elder Plutonium.

[angrynerds2]

It doesn’t matter which level the birds have…. like I said before.
I don’t need a super platinum, ancient gold or radioactive plutonium bird when I have no advantage in the arena with it.

[AngryPlayer]

@angrynerds2 True. It’s just going to prove that Rovio is in this for infinity until its players burn out and quit. Meaning out for the cash grab and no interest in keeping a fraction of fun factor in playing the game.

As someone earlier said before, “it’s a hamster wheel of unfulfilled gameplay designed to keep you paying.”

What Rovio has done is set up an environment where players need to be at the top level just to be able to compete. Because anyone else will just get matched up against the highest-level players and will be put in a position where they will have to strive to level up in order to be able to play (just look at this thread and all the complaints from people who have level 9 birds and are constantly being matched up against level 12 and 13 birds).

Rovio knows what it’s doing- trying to frustrate players into spending money.

[Psygaz]

This happened to me in level one tonight.

A new low. They’re now actually making it impossible.

[Davetv]

You mean that’s never happened to you before? I’ve spent over 300 gems each time defeating that level over the last year. It always happens to me around level 2 or 3 in the streak or it will happen when you committe 5 spells in the level 7 of the streak to make sure you’ll win and then you spend another 60 to 180 gems on top of your 5 spells. That’s what pisses me off!

[AngryPlayer]

haha we should almost go back to the “Bad Luck” thread and rename it “everyday gameplay cheap shots on players by Rovio.”

Like this one. See my last pig? Well neither do I. But in the scope at the top left there’s obviously one remaining. Hint: He’s in a balloon basket that floated offscreen to the right. Had to aim blindly to get him and as you can see, I used up my flock on this near impossible shot.

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How about this one? A piglet came to rest on a fan. Had to kiss my game goodbye because any bird I shot over there got blown away before it could hit him. And when I used the chili pepper it of course went to the other pig in the blocks, and of course none of the blocks fell over there to hit him because the fan blew them all away.

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And in the spirit of your image above, @psygaz, an impossible piglet to hit.

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Can’t see him? I wasted a Pig Puffer to make him more visible before I threw away my flock trying to hit him.

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I’m sure none of this is accidental.

[heybert17]

Are we sure our opponent is playing the same level. There are way too many times I get beat by double my score on some of these new levels where there is no way my opponent was able to do this unless every single one of their shots were a strike and they had no micro pigs to deal with.

[kedik22]

@davetv

Hi.
Do you get a chance to open the treasure chest every 15 minutes?
If so you are lucky, my time frame is 30 minutes.

@hank, do participants play with different rules , specifically this one?

Regards.

[Anonymous]

@kedik22 you had to pay for an upgrade that allows you twice as many chests. I believe It is what gives some players that Gold border in the arena. From memory it was 5 or 10 bucks, it gave gold border, twice as many chests per day (i.e. 15 min not 30 min), and something else from memory (maybe a few spells?). But yes, I also get to open every 15mins where as it used to be every half an hour

Checking in app purchases on the iTunes Store, and it was either called ‘precious prince pack’ for 4.99 or ‘great King pack’ for 14.99…..sorry I don’t remember exactly which one of those it was.

[kedik22]

@chucky-2

Thanks for the info.
Guess that offer is not available anymore?

@hank?

[Anonymous]

It used to pop up randomly for me @kedik22 …..so some weeks I would log on and nothing, then real occasionally I would log in and sort of where the daily challenge appears, popped up a special that was available for 20 mins to an hour offering that pack.

Then it would disappear for a few weeks, then it would come back again, for between 20 mins to an hour, until I finally purchased it. Now I haven’t seen it in months, but I just assumed that was because I finally purchased it.

As to if they still offer it, sorry I am not sure.

Edit: oh in other news, finally got the azure slingshot today as per what I mentioned previously. Yay!

[angrynerds2]

Yeah, that treasure every 15 minutes is still from that crown-and-robe-for-red upgrade some time ago. It started with twice a day instead of once.

That damn mini pigs are harder to get now, the smaller radius of Bomb’s shockwave made things worse.

[mad4paok]

The game keeps getting worse and of course it’s Rovio’s fault. It’s really annoying these indestructible and invincible pigs. I mean come on people seriously??? A wood or a stone fall on the head of the pig and nothing happens? Nothing??????? I also noticed that the last 3 days I can’t pass stage 2 in the arena. No matter how good I play (ok when I play bad it’s understandable I lose) I ALWAYS lose! It’s not normal you know. First 2 rounds I get opponents equal to me or lower (another unfair! for my opponents) and then at stage 3 of course I get an opponent with 14 level birds (I have all of them at 13 level except for 2 which are 12). I mean is it SO FREAKING DIFFICULT to get opponents equal to you???? What is wrong with you people? Of course you care for getting money but this is ridiculous. I have spent enough money (for me too much, normally I wouldn’t even spent a cent!!!) that’s the reason I don’t ditch the game! Sometimes it’s tempting to spent some money to get the extra gems you need to win a stage in the arena, but then I hear the voice of logic telling me ENOUGH IS ENOUGH and NO MORE MONEY TO ROVIO! You should really improve the game or else in the longterm you will be the only ones left to play…

[heybert17]

I am calling out Rovio for deliberate manipulation of game dynamics and Arena scores for profit. I know they are in it to make money, but it is pretty obvious they are manipulating the game to give themselves an unfair advantage. Not sure about apps, but there are laws against this in many gaming sectors.

[Davetv]

Well just as usual the new oinklahoma levels came out this morning and all my birds immediately leveled up to 15. I played to level 703 which took about 10 minutes. I then opened a free chest and got 10 Matilda feathers. Low and behold Matilda re-leveled up to lvl15 from lvl14 and poof all of my birds were at lvl14 again! Just like that poof!!!! I have reported this to rovio and we shall see if I receive any help to straighten this out. I will post what they do when they get back to me.

Also when I invite my son to the game on face book in the DC I don’t get my 15 gems. I’ve tried several days in a row but it doesn’t work for some reason.

[heybert17]

It is very disheartening to be winning by over a million points with just a couple birds left, and the next thing you know you look up and you have lost by a couple hundred thousand. This happens a lot no matter how well you play those last couple birds.

And when you know your opponent is about to over take you and all you have is Blue to fling at concrete blocks, and your video gives you yet another Blue to fling at those same concrete blocks the first blue bounced off of all you can do it throw your tablet at the wall and give up. Blue shows up as the video bird at way to high a rate for it not to be deliberate.

[Rovio_Hank]

Hello flingers!

Thanks for posting screen shots of pigs getting stuck in bad places. We’re fixing each and everyone of these that we see. We’ve also had level passes this week to try and find and fix as many as we can see ourselves.

A happy news is also that we’ve made the small minion pig less resistant for the next update. The fact that the game is physics based (and hence random) does create some weird scenarios where birds and pigs sometimes behaves in unexpected ways. We haven’t tweaked any of their physics for some updates (other than pigs rolling more easily now), but we have also noticed that for some reason the small pigs got more annoying. Hopefully the next update will relieve you guys from some frustrating moments.

I’ve mentioned it before and I’ll mention it again for awareness. No gameplay values or randomness is tweaked during your runs. It does sometimes feel frustrating getting blues as the video reward when there’s a stone tower left or having pigs surviving from a collapsed tower, but that’s just how random the game can be.

…And a note for the people discussing how it can be possible to be passed in score on your last bird. Remember that even though you start on an identical run as your opponent, you still can clear the rooms in different speeds. This means that while you are in room 5, your opponent can be i.e in room 4 or 6 or 7 depending on how their shots went. So while your last bird shoots at a single tower to pop your last pig, your opponents last shot might be in an entirely new/other room where a lot more destruction might be possible.

And as a last update I can tell you that we’re really investigating Arena bugs. I’m super annoyed that these exist and we’re trying to find fixes for these. Most of these bugs seem kind of obscure where the problem most likely happens when losing internet connection/switching devices/merging local and cloud saves etc. It’s hard to find how these bugs happen when we can’t reproduce the bugs ourselves, but we’ve fixed a few issues already and will hopefully find all of them. If you are one of the unlucky souls that got demoted several leagues in the Arena (bug fixed now) and still haven’t been promoted back to where you were, send me a message here on the Nest and I’ll try to fix it for you.

Take care!
/Hank

[Psygaz]

@davetv No, never happened to me before. Now think I belong to an exclusive club.

@angryplayer Yes, I posted a couple of dastardly pics on the Bad Luck thread last week. One pig almost invisible, took me an age to find it. Also, Boss landing behind the sling.

Just had a micropig in a basket drop from a great height, the basket crashed open, the pig was left sitting on top of a tiny upright stone out of reach of any bird I had. @hank, I look forward to this being addressed. I don’t mind difficult, I do mind impossible.

[heybert17]

My opponent started the game with 2 Chucks, while I guess that is possible I have kept track, and not one time have my birds ever appeared where I could have used the same bird as bird one and two. If your first bird is Chuck that means he was one of your first 3 birds, the only way then that you could get Chuck as your second bird is if the 4th bird you received was Chuck, not once has my 4th bird ever been the same as any of my first 3 birds. Ever since I have been facing opponents that have 2 of the same birds in their first 3 I have been paying close attention. Just having your 1st and 3rd bird be the same has to be rare, having your first 2 birds be the same is SUPER RARE, yet it has happened at least 4-5 times to me.

And I am sure it was total coincidence it was a wood level and my score was buried by the 3rd bird.

[kelshe]

@davetv…siMilan thing happened to me. Two birds leveled to 15 with the update. I subsequently leveled another bird and the other two reverted to 14. One of those had points deducted and the other shows the points for 15 but is ranked 14. Rovio said sorry, it’ll be fixed next update and gave me a few gems.

[Davetv]

@kelshe… I got the same generic response. Bend over and take it right. I also can’t tell how many gems they sent. Fortunately as I opened the free chests through out the day and got feathers they would go back to lvl 15. I finally got them all back late yesterday. As I continued to play it cost me extra gems or spells to beat the lvl15 that out ranked me. They never seem to consider that loss of time and money. It’s just “here’s a few gems” and we’ll fix it later.

[AngryPlayer]

Well obviously the Elder Diamond level was introduced yesterday- because ever since that moment, every single player I’ve faced has been Level 15 all-stars with fully-stocked flocks (I’m Level 13 and 14). >:-( …so predictable.

@hank I have a question: In the boss screens we are not allowed to bring spells. However there have been several times when for example, I am presented with a 6-room boss screen, and in the first room I fill my destructo-meter twice and technically could have won 2 bird cards, but since the flock gets refilled after one, the second bonus card just doesn’t get awarded because it would have been a spell card.

However when nearing the 6th room, I am void of cards and end up losing. But had I received that card that I would have been awarded earlier, I might have stood a chance at completing the boss room.

This doesn’t really seem fair… Can Rovio come up with a way to maybe make this a little more balanced? Thanks for listening.

[David Martin]

It does sometimes feel frustrating getting blues as the video reward when there’s a stone tower left or having pigs surviving from a collapsed tower, but that’s just how random the game can be.

@hank – I’ve felt for a while that there should at least be a rule saying that when you fling your last bird and it fills the Destruct-o-meter or you watch a video to get another one, you don’t get the same one immediately after that. No joke, I lost a close Arena match once because my last bird was Blues and the last room I reached was almost stone. I fired it, managed to kill an exposed pig and fill the Destruct-o-Meter, then got another Blues, which was useless. Watched a video and then got [i]another[/i] Blues. Certainly anything’s possible when it’s completely random – you could conceivably flip a coin 50 time and always get heads. But this situation is a good argument in favor of programming in an exception to the randomness when a player is out of birds.

I’ve noticed that when you have every card and spell in the deck (by starting the Arena or any other level with all five spells) and you fill the Destruct-o-meter with your first bird/spell, you get back the exact one you just used because the system will never give you a duplicate of a card you already have. If you fill it twice with just that one shot, you will still only get one extra card, because there’s nothing left to give you for the second one. So there’s at least a precedent set for limiting the randomness in certain scenarios. if you can limit it when we have every single card, you should also be able to limit it when we only have one card.

[Jon S]

@chucky-2

Wow congrats. how did u get it so quickly? I tried doing TT on my devices, doesn’t seem to work

[Psygaz]

Managed the full-fat seven streak this morning. Three hours wait for the next entry and lost both levels one and two by millions. My reward for getting too cocky.