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@Heatherbird It’s my understanding from Bluejay & @Devon-drozd aka BirdSlayer who joined our Clan nine hours before the latest CvC that they’d only been with you for a few days and had stayed because they didn’t want to leave your Clan in the lurch mid-Event, but when they saw you’d clear the max without them they left so you’d have time to replace them before the Battle. I don’t know Peegee Tee’s story other than their leaving you after a CvC, @Turke-Y-Birdson, which can be almost as frustrating since both of you work tirelessly at recruitment. But I too left my original Clan in frustration, and while I was blessed with a great second Clan not everyone feels ours is a good fit for them and I’d rather replace them than have them unhappy. No way does that equate with cheating or hacking, IMHO, nor does the consideration given to Renegades by their brief stay warrant such harsh words about BJ & BS in this public Clan Recruitment forum, also IMHO. Just my two cents on the subject (2.66¢ Canadian)…