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  • @lucylastic I think there will be more levels added. As Rovio expands the game they do change game play they add levels - I think that's why the Zeever line is gone. There are still more characters to unlock and more forest to expand in to. I grew up working on video games and so I've been burnt out on them for years. The Croods is one of the first ones in a LONG time that I actually play. I hope they stick with it. One thing that we can do is spend time playing and BUY gems. The company has to be able to justify putting expensive man hours into a FREE game. If the manager of the project can show people are spending time and money, Rovio will hopefully continue to fund The Croods game. We have to remember that this a business and if they don't make a profit then they'll be OUT of business. I also think that somebody with the company does check in on this message board, so hopefully some of our suggestions (and complaints) are heard.
  • My first Liyote finished., now making fruits.
    Anyone know how long for the evolves take ? ( or at least the first one ? )
    Build, I think takes 20 hrs, or at least 19hrs and some minutes.

    It's now afternoon and I now got my own answer the hard way.
    Building one takes 24 hrs exactly
    Evolve to 2nd level 1 day 5 hours.

    On my IPAD, I have built the Liyote and are now PEPPERED with soup requests for fruits and NO fruits yet until this afternoon. It even wanted 7 of them and I didn't even have the first one finished

    On my android phone, that game is NOT getting the Liyote so fast. I'm at max lev25 on both. Maybe in a week or two I might bother to up to the Liyote for my android. Meanwhile I'll do LOTS of sticks and muds while not polluted with fruit requests.

    @lucylastic, I noticed the zeavers have moved to new trap area.
    I believe they 'unlock' again at level 25 and gain one more to build (4) !

    Edit: I've started building 4th zeaver home. Just started trapping zeaver. Evolved trap 2x, cute looks like wooden and stone turkey. 3rd wanted 55 crystals, nope not gonna do that stupid move. I still have 3 days to trap and train the zeaver, plenty of time, yet.
  • Does anyone know what happens after completing the last achievement in level 25?
  • hi guys look there where is the teritory with the liyote and zeaver look there where you can put traps for them...look there's a tree moving tap on him and you will find a macawnivore..i don;t know what it does... :)
  • @dms01 nothing happens after level 25! Like at level 21 before the update came: you cant even earn more exp points.... Very sad #Rovio
  • Does anyone know how to finish the achievements "Grumpy Collector" and "Professor of Zoology" ? I have all 12 kinds of animals in area 2 or area 3, but it does not finish..
  • @jetlabels - I played for many hours -day and night during my sons leg amputation and the recovery after. I even bought a huge box of crystals - so I HAVE spent both time and money on the game and find it disappointing that they could still ignore the customers who have supported them. I was even telling all my friends to play - and my kids. But they will not play a game that wont even let you earn experience if you "max out"

    If they had taken the same amount of time to make an update for angry birds, the game would not be even 10 % as popular as it is. This just feels like a tv soap opera getting you interested - leaving you with a cliff hanger, like someone giving birth in an elevator- then taking 6 months to make a 5 minute advertisement to say the baby was a girl, thats all we got. ( i hope that makes sense).

    I really DO love the game and game play itself - but feel like it isnt worth it to play another 6 months for an upgrade that can be finished in under a day. If they want to encourage real cash purchases -they should make it worthwhile and keep the game plodding along. Why spend real cash if you can catch up to the same level everyone else is on just with a little time ? I bought my box of crystals wanting to get to level 30 or so to be "comfortable" on the game and have enough animals to feed etc - and enough stuff to keep me busy. Then I hit level 21 and nothing new. THEN I found this forum. I could have still made it to level 21 without spending before the update came out.
  • @lucylastic I hear what your saying. It took me less than a day (less than 15 hours) to max out levels once the new update was released. Kind of a bummer. Now I'm just waiting for homes to evolve. I don't have anything to do until then, and won't really have anything to do even after they're done, except boost my Liyotes. And they don't even make food (as of right now) just fruit for trading. booooorrrrrrring.

    The one thing that I did notice is the raised square area in the new section. I wonder if it has anything to do with getting the next Crood family member. Anybody got any ideas about who it might be or what we have to do to get them?
  • In the third (latest) trap area, you'll notice a tree shaking, with some type of creature behind it. Tap on the tree multiple times to release it. (on ios)
  • @jetlabels I think it should be Eep as she was family before they met Guy. That doesn't mean it will be. I did see the raised area, and thought it may have something to do with Eep, and the "invention" we will have to build. Or even a spot for another security system.

    Currently the game keeps crashing on me now if I try to feed fast, this is just annoying, but liveable I guess.

    I actually like that we can use the taming pens for any animal now and not just the lower level animals in the top pen. I like that for the time being at least we have room to move. And that the forklift is now gone giving room for one more animal maybe? I haven't tested that yet.

    I do NOT like that the pet we click on centres, or that it is harder to click on some pets.

    If there more levels to "work" for I would even be tempted to use gems to tame my lyotes quicker. But if that is going to be months away there is no encouragement to spend the gems, this is where they have dropped the ball, because if they want to encourage gem spends ( and real cash purchases ) then they should have many more levels, even if they were spread out with less quests and more souping / building up of pets, especially since that also gives experience.

    Even have as a quest to get through a higher level ( I did it on level 20) by souping / collecting food ONLY. That level lasted a while. I just wish I had found this forum before I did that. IF they did this as a quest (perhaps for Eep or Guy) the prize could be
    - a third berry bush
    - each bush now takes less time to make a berry (like half, so maybe 6 seconds)
    Either prize would mean you could keep more pets fed rather than let some go hungry.

    If they are short of ideas for development maybe they could ask the players for some ideas and pay a small bag of gems to the person or people who penned the ideas they used?

    I personally, would like it if every 1000 pets we cleaned ( and collected doo from), and then applied to a berry bush made it go 1 second faster, with future quests to reach 10 ... 8....4... And 1 second on the berry bushes (those numbers could be changed, this is just an idea for a challenge)

    Currently a berry bush produces a berry in 12 seconds, a molar bear - levelled up by soup, cleaned and played with, takes 24 seconds to eat a berry. This means a bush can support 2 molar bears at present. This means that most of our carrots are now produced by 4 molarbears.
  • I too am having the problem that the task to own three zeavers won't complete. My three zeavers were done and max'd before the update. Has anyone solved this yet?

    The game crashes on me regularly (iOS) as well, which I hope they get fixed soon.

    While I still find the game tedious if played too long, in small increments and after the update I'm enjoying it again. I guess I should thank the devs for making it crash, I'm finding it a good way to limit my time with it. lol!

    Hope y'all are enjoying playing!
  • @jet, lol. You sure nailed that one. Now to enjoy my crashes too. I have an IPAD that has crashed a few times, but the android phone game, wow probably 3x as often in crashing. Maybe due to smaller RAM /CPU power ? I've taken to doing more emptying out of memory other apps. Seems to be somewhat less annoying.

    That auto move has really given me the fits, but after getting used to it, I have found that it can be used to shortcut my manually moving one or more screens away. I just note which animal to click on and ZOOM, I'm there each time.

    One BIG annoyance is clicking on an animal and it goes to the wrong one ! Worse it is repeatable to point I can't get to a few animals. If I jump to facebook and browse for a while then start back with Croods, it usually will restart from scratch. THEN the impossible to get animal goes in ONE click just pretty as you please. Definitely some memory management issues.

    I too have the 3 zeaver award undone, I'll see if the 4th triggers the award. Some of the awards were automatic and points flowed without clicking "get award". I really hope I can save this one until scoring resumes.

    As for berry bush harvesting..... There are 6 bushes full per hour. Every 10 minutes bushes fill up. My cycles starts with 15-30 in cave. Dump 100 into cave wait 10 minutes. Click a bush, if you had 123 in cave, you will see 24 remain on bush. Go to MolarBear1 (mb1) and fill it. Go to other bush, click, see 26 remain. Go to mb2 - mb7 fill. Of the 150 in cave of this batch 6 remain. Click both bushes to move in rest. You should have at least 48 to 97, fill mb8 & mb9. Now you should have at least 20 to 49. Rinse and repeat.

    Variation: I maintain 9-18 to start and visit neighbors like crazy for 9.5 minutes, 2x. All other are same. I can usually get 10-35 berries from 18 or so minutes of visitations.

    I don't bother super charging up the molarbears, 9 works those two bushes continous input just fine. A third bush might be a bit more taxing on 9 mb.

    The BIG bottlenecks are the gators and sharks. The accelerators are nice but need to be sat upon to keep them up. Now need A LOT more eggs. I don't bother super charging the mud cats nor zeavers. Too expensive of a cost. AND I can't get enough throughput from the sharks.

    Edit: Trying to keep up with 2 games, visit neighbors, energize 15% & 5% boosters, type stuff here. Phew, my brain cpu is starting to max, or is it my fingers maxing out ?

    I seem to get close to the same # crystals from lazy teen playing as the occasional neighbor visiting I can fit in. I may be visiting a lot less.
  • The crashes are probably due to their servers.
    Have you tried to build a forth zeaver home. I'm just a few hours from completing them. I'll let you know.
  • While visiting, I saw a layout of 5 Liyotes and only 3 decorations and thought are they all at max ? So I sketched it out. I just tried it, it works ! See my layout in Chard. All five animals are maxed for the 3 decorations.

    Also about probabilities of berries, carrots, leaves,....Mud, sticks used to be skewed to LOTS of berries. In 1000 visits 'maybe' a mud or stick. A couple of months ago it seemed to flatten out a bunch. Now seems MUCH flatter than ever. I'll do 9 minutes of visiting (10-17) and now 0-15 berries. In 30 visits I've seen a bone, a fish, an egg, a feather, few leaves, some carrots and maybe 5(x5) berries. Oh, yes 2 (x5) crystals ! Nice ! Yes, extra coins too, I just don't track those.

    See my MudCats next to it. I just was able to put decoration 'tween two pair. That worked splendid.

    My zeaver layout is probably good. I need to prove it when it finishes building in another day and half.
  • @sal9 Please let us know about the Zeavers. I'm still 48 hours out from completing my 4th home and like a lot of people I'd like to know what happens.
  • The Zeaver chore unlocked for me.
  • Completing the 4th Zeaver home closed the chore for me.
  • Guys, when you got the zeaver chore to close, did you get FORCED to take the coins and XP right now. Or could you keep it until a new level opens and credits can be used then ?
  • I have a feeling there won't be any more levels. Level 25 is the "Max Level". Maybe there will be another of Grug's inventions, but not levels. I hope I am wrong though...

    It looks like there won't be any more animals beyond the zeavers. It probably isn't feasible any more. Any animal that would eat sticks would probably require a day or nearly a day to produce anything.

    Has anyone tried the "at least one of each animal in Area 3" achievement? I tried it, but it didn't work! Any ideas?
  • @mohsie, area 3 must have MORE than the two we know now. Zeavers and Liyotes. Must be more planned.

    Maybe Rovio put "max level" instead of "coming soon", then trying to redefine 'soon' to be 5 months.

    Now for my entertainment, I am b8uilding a spreadsheet of all my Croods playing neighbors from FB and GC. I am at "O" and so far only one shows different levels between my IOS game and android game. The neighbor / guest hang problem appears to 'mostly' be fixed. Seems some of my 'friends' are still at level 2,4,7 and holding. Probably quit playing. I assumed it was their guest account, but is probably their main game. 5 are at level 1, probably never finished the tutorial but still requested friendship from the gang of neighbors.
  • @InHisName I think you're right. I don't know why they would bother with a Macawnivore for Grug with the new update if they didn't have plans for some expansion.

    Bathing the critters is kind of pain, but it is kind of cool to see some animals (like the Zeavers) go from dirty to clean. If we do get another update I would think it would unlock another character. Anybody got any guesses on who it might be? I'm thinking Sandy. If I was one of the designers, I'd save my 'strongest' characters for last.
  • Nothing happens after the 4th zeaver home is ready!!!
  • My "one of each animal in Area 3" achievement unlocked all by itself... well AFTER I put all the animals back in their original places. My "3 zeavers" core unlocked too at the same time. I'm not complaining. Better late than never.
  • Hello,

    and thanks for contacting us.

    As the quest for 3 owning Zeavers was added in the latest update, the game doesn't unfortunately realize if they were tamed already before the update. In that case the quest will finish when the fourth Zeaver is tamed and released to it's home at level 25.

    Best regards,

    Jenni
    Rovio Support Team
  • Thanks for the clarification @HowardMoon
  • I got my 4th zeaver finished last night and the 3-fer triggered and also got IOS award in GC for all animals in area 3. Now I have tag in granny's chest showing 'Get reward' for the 3 zeavers. Good that answers my question, I CAN save the coin/xp until I can use the credits for higher levels.
    ====================
    On another note I gathered up some stats on my 2 games:
    I posted to my timeline in FB but for those without FB, here tis.
    -------------------------
    Some statistics about my game play with 'The Croods'.
    Who..........Chard S,....Rich S.
    started:......Mar '13.....May '13
    coin.........4,479,320....4,357,660
    crystals............1768....1946
    Level...................25....25
    Friends
    Total Neighbors....180...119
    Total FB..............198....155
    Total GC...............16.......0
    Grand Total.........214....155
    Aren't Playing at all...18.....36
    angrybirdsnest.com forum name = InHisName

    Interesting that some never played but friend requested. Must be gamers after mega friendship listings. Some may have played but fully deleted all records so Rovio shows as non player again. Visiting 180 is very tedious now only once a month do I bother to fully go thru the list to the end. Mostly just start at top every 12 hours.

    OK, so FB hates tabs. So's here's a buncha periods instead.
  • @moshie (or anybody else that might know) With the "one of each animal in Area 3" achievement do we have to move one of EVERY animal into area 3 or just catch one of each critter IN area 3?
  • @jetlabels, My zeavers are all in area 2.
    I got the award.
    Even when all 4 were placed in area 2.
    It happned when BOTH the zeaver and home were ready for each other. I clicked the check mark. Bam! both awards came to screen right away.

    My area 3 has two animal types in it.
    I have 5 Liyotes in area 3.
    Plus 4 MudCats in area 3.
  • It looks like you only have to catch a zeaver and a liyote in area 3 to get the achievement. Looking through the achievement list, there were similar ones for areas 1&2. That is why you get the award when the zeaver gets tamed and homed.

    You don't have to move one of each animal into area 3, although that is what I actually did before I realised
  • Thunk

    It seems that Thunk works on an 8 hour shift. Give him the one item that he request and he plays with the animals for 8 hours. In return you get 5 crystals. 3 "Shifts" a day and you could get 15 crystals per day.
  • THX @moshie You're correct about the area 3 achievement. Also, the game does NOT make you take your reward, so if you want you can save it for the next update.

    The game is still freezing up for me (just like everybody else). I'm playing on a Kindle, is all you iOS users out there, don't think it's just your machine.
  • I am playing on Samsung Galaxy Note 2 (android) and have not expierenced any freeze issues.
  • I am on a Galaxy Note 2 too and have never had any crashing or freezing issues. Galaxy Note 2 has 2 GB RAM. So this could most likely be a memory issue. As the game has gotten bigger, it obviously needs more RAM. Might be worth clearing the RAM before running the game. I don't know about Apple, but I know you can do that on Android.
  • Anyone know if Thunk recycles his requests? He had been asking for only sticks,
    but now wants liyote fruit...I don't have one fully tamed yet. Will I have to wait for taming and producing, or will he change his request?
  • Has anyone got an updated "price list" of what Ugga will pay for each product? I need to do some serious souping and I want to try to find the most effective way.
  • berry = 1
    carrot = 3
    stone = 9
    leaf = 12
    feather = 36
    bone = 48
    egg = 96
    fish = 192
    fruit = 384
    mud = 576
    stick = 768

    :) hope that helps
  • Thanks @lucylastic. I just plugged the numbers into Excel. Looks like Mud gives the best value. For "quick" souping, feathers and stones are good value.

    ...............Price.....Cost.......Value
    berry......1............1.............1
    carrot.....3............1.............3
    stone......9............2.............4.5
    leaf.........12..........3.............4
    feather...36.........6.............6
    bone.......48.........9.............5.33
    egg..........96.........9.............10.67
    fish.........192.......18............10.67
    fruit........384.......27............14.22
    mud........576.......36............16
    stick........768.......54............14.22


    The only problem is that we don't get to choose what we sell. Ugga rarely asks for feathers... but then again... who likes feather soup???
  • @mohsie

    well it would cause a "tickle in your throat" ... so maybe its a good thing she doesn't want them lol.
  • I am at Max level. And all my freinds are gone again the only one I have is freindly neighbor
  • Mine dropped my friends once -but when i went to the "gear" ( third tab) I found that I had been signed out of facebook on my device. I hope yours is as simple to fix.
  • What is the Macawnivore, and how do I get?
  • @Kash, the Macawnivore doesn't appear to "do" anything yet. There's a tree in the lower section of the new area that shakes. Click on it a few times to release the creature. I assume you have to be far enough along in the game, with both Inventions completed because the Mac walks a path over the structures connecting the three areas and parks itself near Grug. At least that's how it worked for me, on iOS.
  • @catie my friends list has dropped off a couple of times too, I clicked the invite friends on facebook option and they came back up
  • Several musings. First for @catie, I sometimes notice some drop from lev21 to 0 or 1, after a few suspicious ones, I 'reset'. I go to the 'gear' tab and disconnect from FB. Go to the center tab and observe all FB friends are gone. Sometimes I repower the device now that it gets slow and crashes a lot. Then I go to center tab and reconnect to FB. After many seconds the names all come back. Some or most of the ones that slipped to 0 or 1 are back to normal levels 21/25 or whatever. Many but not all are fixable now.

    Note 2: concerning the Liyote and evolves. I have evolved 3 1x. and one 2x. So now I have one at 3, 3 at 6 and one at 10. HOWEVER will any of you with 2x evolves, please check yours, does it take 2 or 3 eggs to make one fruit ? Mine shows 3 eggs for one fruit. That's much worse than the other lessor ones. After all that building and evolving, I'm a bit reluctant to delete it and start again. Anyone done that yet ?
  • My max production Liyotes need 3 eggs for 1 fruit while the mid and base homes only needed 2 eggs for 1 fruit. Seems like a programming error - I have 2 maxed and one evolving now. It does seem best to not max the houses - though this should be adressed by rovio soon like in the next 3 months or so!)

    Note: There was an update for android this morning but it added nothing new - maybe fixed bugs that some were expieriencing.
  • For me last night update fixed the zeaver achievement. Its fun to start playing again but tbh if next animal take 3 month i wont bother... As for ideas on whats to come, i could see a bush on the little platform on area 3 with an invention to access it and an other to get to next area. That way we get something to do while getting area 3 animals. Whats missing are difficult quest. I got to lvl 25 in less than an hour... So also missing : harder leveling... The fun at the beginning was it was hard and took time and effort. Now its fast and easy and then you get bored...
  • Would love a quest that you had to really work for
    example- complete a level using only soups and visits ( no other quests ) to finish ... with only small amounts of experience for each visit / collection of food -it should take a while to do and at least we would feel like we are progressing rather than stagnating...

    Am I just weird or would any one else be happy with a challenge like this ?
  • I think there should be no cap on XP. People could geek out forever. Maybe make the level contingent on chores completed.
  • I have tried all the tips and still no friends. I don't know what is going on. Sent it to rovio. and they don't know how to get them back either
  • Hi Comm

    Asked Rovio to improve that whole neighbour-visit-thing. It sucks so bad that the app can only take you back to your own world before visitig another neighbour/friend. Would be so great if there was an option to "go and visit next neighbour on friends list" or sth. Right now I have around 100 FB-friends for this game and it takes more than an hour to visit them all... pfffhhh... (in case anyone is interested, you find me on FB as 'Lars Quinnell' with the blue-eye-icon)

    And well, after today's update my game runs smoothly again (iOS on iPad, no crashes anymore), so well done Rovio.

    Since I'm kinda bored with the game after the disappointing update I looked at the achievements earlier and took a run for the "build 200 decos". And hey, I'm cheap! So I chose the cheapest deco (the 3-horned skull) and planted it all over the place til the note came up telling me the achievement was done. The fun part was to remove all the crab... almost killed my cpu! LOL

    I really hope Rovio will improve the visit-section and speed that up. Besides that there are still two characters to come. Just don't make it another 4 months or so... by that time the US$ might have crashed the world! ROTFL

    Oh, maybe one question to the community: Did anyone figure out yet if there is a way to play this game without connecting to the internet? Would be nice to be able to play it on the plane or so...

    Cheers,
    Lars
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